Adele Akrong - Transcript
Adele Akrong
Tue, 2/1 2:37PM • 56:31
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
people, energy, started, corporate, adele, life, clients, create, happen, feel, transition, side hustle, easy, business, coach, energetic, situation, big, wanted, hypnotherapy
SPEAKERS
Jamie Stephens, Adele Akrong
Adele Akrong 00:00
That's the energy of alignment. That's how easily that's how effortlessly these things can come together. The problem is, is that we will override divine timing will force things to happen, we will create so much resistance and so much struggle to continue to try to fit ourselves into this box that we've outgrown. Where what we really need to do is just to allow ourselves to experience what else is happening. So what happens in those situations is the right time happens, the right person happens, the message is received in the right way at the right time. And you just make the small shift, you just go into a different direction. Everything starts to come together in a more fluid, more expansive way.
Jamie Stephens 00:49
Hey there, and welcome back to breaking up with corporate. I'm Jamie Rene, your host and truth telling gal pal here to have the real conversations with badass women doing their thing will talk candidly about the hard lessons impact business failure mindset, corporate Bs, and all the things. I'm excited to highlight and learn from these amazing women that have stepped into their power and are proving what's possible. Let's do this. Hey, Hey, and welcome back to another episode of Breaking up with corporate, I want to introduce you to Adele a Krong. She is an energetic alignment mentor who works with women who find themselves in a season of transition, whether that's a different position within the corporate environment, or a way out with a side hustle. It's really those women that know that they want more out of their career and life than they already have. Adele and I talk about the universal nudge that led to her transition from the world of financial securities to working with energetic concepts and modalities and all the discoveries along the way, we really had a lot of overlap in our stories that led to some super fine conversation. I hope you enjoy Adele, if you want to get started and just tell us kind of a little bit about yourself. And then we'll get into your journey of how you left corporate and what you're doing now.
Adele Akrong 02:16
Okay, perfect. Um, so I am currently my, how I operate my business is I am and energetic alignment mentor. So what I do is I really work within energy, and being able to help people really kind of break through the limitations that they've kind of created, in their own mind, really be able to firmly set up maybe a side hustle, or maybe you're unemployed, maybe you're wanting to create your own business. Or maybe you're just wanting to have a career transition within the corporate arena. And you have finally figured it out that you want more out of it. I think COVID, Tavis all a really big lesson about what we value and work life balance. And, you know, the security that we kind of rely on may not actually be that secure. And now we want more. Right. So I think that's probably a benefit that has come out of COVID is it's helped us really kind of realign our value systems and what's important to us. And my job really is to help empower people to be able to create these businesses, I've done it myself, I've done it from a traumatic experience, and from an experience of wanting more. So I can really relate to a lot of my clients on what they're going through and give them really practical steps. But in the end, it comes down to the energy behind the thing that you're doing. And that's really the missing piece that will help you get where you want faster and easier and with ease and make more money.
Jamie Stephens 03:58
I love that, you know, I I left corporate for the first time and 2018 and I had no idea about this whole world of self development, energy work alignment, like those would have been foreign words to me at that time. And it was not, it wasn't good. I mean, I was probably out. I mean, I intended to not go back. But it just I was not in a place myself to where I mean just everything was gross. Like my whole energy was gross. And I didn't have those words at the time. But I love I love bringing this to two women, you know where they're at right now because this is stuff that you can do, like right now. And so you're more prepared whenever you actually make that leap. So I love what you're doing.
Adele Akrong 04:46
You know, and I so I appreciate that. Thank you and I love what you just said is that these are things that you do before. These are things that you can do right now before you make the move before you leave. Corporate before you get another job before you figure things out, you don't. One of the biggest annoyances that I would face when I was in corporate, was when I was looking for like a new growth, opportunity, HR, my managers or whoever would say, Okay, well, what do you want to do? And it's like, if you lack that clarity, and you don't have that specific goal, then they like, nobody is there to help you. Right? You don't need the clarity, you don't need to know that right now. That's what we work towards. Right? Like, um, and it's all things that you can do right now. And I am a living example like this works, it works. Like the results my clients get the results that I have, it works, you know, like, you don't even know what's available to you until you kind of start dabbling in this world. So
Jamie Stephens 05:50
that's amazing. So what, um, what were you doing incorperate? Before you, I think it was kind of an unplanned leap. Right.
Adele Akrong 05:59
So there were two, actually. Okay. Um, so back in 2018, I had a very similar experience kind of to you, I didn't really know a lot about this stuff. And all I knew is that I wanted more out of my job. And what I wanted to do, I had gotten myself into, I was a corporate paralegal at the time, I was working on the investor relations side within a real estate, public support private securities firm. And a lot of people have been like, No, this is really great. I'm like, but there's no ceiling there. Are there's too low the ceiling, like there's, what am I supposed to do with this? How am I supposed to be able to create more like I don't, I got myself into a position that I didn't really identify with, um, and I just kind of overrode timing, and kind of took the first thing out of like, desperation. And there I was, and for a long time, like, don't get me wrong, like that position was really, really great, right? It's just not something that I felt complete with, it didn't fulfill me. Um, and in 2016, at the end of 2016, I had my son, my first child, and I was on maternity leave for a year and then started going back to work on 2017. And that's really when I started to feel it like now I'm in a position where it's like, well, what do I do, like, I have this baby, I should have made this move before. But for some reason, I thought it'd be easier afterward. And I didn't want to put that off. Now I'm in this position where I don't know what to do. Like, I can go and get another job, doing the same thing. But I want that and I just couldn't like I was just in such a spiral. And so I really started, I took half of my mat leave, to dive into this whole, like, personal development area. Every successful person says mindset is everything. So I'm like, Okay, let's figure out what this mindset thing is right? Like, right, how do we do this? And it was, pretty early on that I realized that I had this idea of the job I wanted, I thought I wanted to go into project management, I have experience in project management, I was able to, like, do all the practical things, I was able to write the resume, update the LinkedIn profile, contact, all the recruiters do all of these things. And it just didn't work out. I wasn't getting anything, I wasn't getting a single bite. And this is something that I'm completely qualified for. So I'm like, okay, maybe I don't know, like, I like what am I supposed to do here? So I started focusing on how I wanted to feel I started focusing on okay, what is the next role income, like, what does it look like for me, and I was like, I want to feel fulfilled, I want to be able to make an impact, I want to be able to do something that I view as important that it actually really helps people. And I would like to kind of receive, I want to, I want to be paid for being me, right? I don't want to have to like have this facade and kind of, like fade into the background or whatever I want to be like a valuable member of wherever I am. So I start kind of focusing on that. And I'm exploring mindset and all of these things. I started meditating, which was something that was very, like foreign to me. And then all of a sudden, I received this like wonderful inspiration to be a Hypnotherapist. Like this is like, I went to university for psychology, so it's not like completely out of the realm, but like that was not on my radar at all. But I completely identified with it. So I was like, Okay, let's look into it. I think it was like, a week later I was enrolled in school. I was like I can do That's like, this is awesome, this can be my side hustle, this can be my thing. And so I went to school for it, I started my practice, I became, it was very successful, I was very happy with it. But the interesting thing was that once I started, what that once I removed the focus from not feeling fulfilled, and not identifying with my corporate job, and all of these things. Once I stopped focusing on that, I started putting all of my energy into this, I started learning about it, the role your subconscious plays, how energy works with it, how to manipulate it, how to really kind of become powerful within your own life. Then all of a sudden, corporate started working for me, my company that I felt like there was no opportunity with, they ended up creating an entirely new division and asked me to, like help create it. So I started doing, I was more I was always in investor relations. But I started selling private securities, I was working in regulatory compliance with Securities Commission, I was sent back to school to get all of these other certifications. And I was feeling extremely aligned, like I couldn't even believe it. So I ended up having my hypnotherapy practice, kind of take a backseat on that, because I really wanted to explore this because in my head, climbing the corporate ladder is the right thing to do, right. Like, in my head, I'm still working with that paradigm. So I continued doing that. And I was very happy for like a good two years. And then my leadership kind of started changing. And I was so overworked, I was taken on so much, I had been there for seven years. So I was able to really kind of take on what I was doing before and then add to it. And I knew the company so well. So it was very easy kind of for me to do all of the things. And then I was relied on to continue doing all of the things even as we got more busy. And no matter how much I asked, I begged for support. I was like I need administrative support, we need to grow this team. I can't be doing all of these things like there's going to be problems that happen. And I was working with someone who I thought had really great stress coping strategies, because he seemed to really handle stress very well. No, what he was doing was bottling it all up until he was able to explode. So there were a series of events that ended up kind of occurring. And it didn't really help with COVID. Because not only were working from home, so you you're not in an office where you can kind of like feel the vibes or kind of pick up on certain things, right? Like I'm isolated and just sitting here. And any communication that I have is through like these chatting apps, right? So there's kind of, and then you also don't want to be like that person who just assumes Everyone's upset with you. And they're like, Okay, I'm not actually upset with you, why are you so sensitive about it, but you're actually like picking up on something. Anyway. Um, so COVID really didn't help matters. But I ended up working all day, Mother's Day, on a Sunday to close a deal. And 8am The next day, I was taken to the boardroom and fired, oh, my God. And it was one of those situations where it's like, I think you for seven years, I had like three promotions over COVID You asked me to do this, I've been asking for help and like not giving the help. And you have and I'm completely blindsided, really, because these are all situations that in my mind, if if I was working with someone who was able to kind of express themselves properly and kind of deal with the not so great parts on top of maybe you know, the great parts, then this is something we should have been able to communicate about and get past. Right. It really is. But when someone is kind of committed to misunderstanding you and kind of looking at you in a certain light that you didn't even know you were like that was happening. And then you find out afterward that like there's all these meetings that are happening behind your back. And like it was just a terrible situation. It was an awful situation. I'm super traumatic about it and afterward, but I will say that I was so grateful when that happens, that I was able to transition back into my business that I had that framework set up that I had that ability to be able to kind of jump back in and still provide for my family and still kind of take ownership and accountability in my own way. And now I am dedicated to helping people, not to helping people navigate through those situations, but also helping them prevent those situations from happening, right, to not allow yourself to be stuck in a situation where you're completely burnt out, you're undervalue. You're overworked. People are committed to not really understanding you. But like, where are you supposed to go from there and really, to be able to take that ownership back to when you're not facing a traumatic event like this. So you can actually make that move yourself when the timing is right. And when you feel called to do that? In my situation, I do look at it as like, a universal nudge, like kind of, like, get off the fence. This isn't what your This isn't your thing. Like, let's go over here. Now. You're not paying attention to the signs. You're not figuring this out for yourself. So we're just gonna do it for you.
Jamie Stephens 16:01
Yeah, that's funny, I didn't realize how much overlap there was with such a similar story. I mean, really being undervalued. And, like, just kind of blindsided. I mean, the whole thing, it's, it's just really, really,
Adele Akrong 16:18
you're through something very similar.
Jamie Stephens 16:21
Oh, it was a, it's funny, because going back to whenever you said that, you know, you couldn't find like, before they created that position for you. And you got into the I mean, I left a logistics company in 2018, where I was like running a team of people and very successful. And, you know, I left on my terms, just because it no longer felt right. And I was like, Okay, I've got to do what's right for me. And then, like, whenever I started to look for a job again, like, I was getting rejected for, like, entry level positions. I was like, what this makes no sense like, I've been running this whole, you know, multimodal multimodal team. And now you're telling me, I'm not qualified for the transportation department, like as an entry level position, because at that point, I was just getting desperate because like, nothing was panning out. I look back on it now. And it's, you know, part of it was still the energy wasn't there. It's not what I wanted to do. And so, you know, universe is honoring my, my internal state of not giving me that. Yeah. And but you know, I didn't have that working knowledge at the time. And then most recently, we went through a big, corporate restructure where I had been promised and told, and, you know, all of these things were, this is what's gonna happen. And then it was just, oh, no, here's this lateral move, and you take on all this responsibility and learn all these new things. And it was like, Okay, it's time like, but you know, it was more a severance helps, because that was that made us help. Yep. Real easy to be like, and I'm out like, I'm not, you know,
Adele Akrong 18:13
no
Jamie Stephens 18:13
absolute Penny, because it's just, it's so enlightening. Whenever you can go back and look at situations and with like, the knowledge of how your subconscious and energy and all of that stuff works now and kind of apply it and look back and be like, of course, that's how it turned out, you know? So yeah, no, it's just really funny, just kind of the overlaps in our story. But that's really interesting.
Adele Akrong 18:42
Well, and I think, you know, I think the story is just so common, right? Like, people being kind of undervalued and overworked, and promised various things. Like, literally three months beforehand, I was offered a promotion, I was kind of told, you'd be really great of like, chief operations, and like our Chief Chief Operations Officer, and you should go and do all of this. And it's kind of like, What are you talking about? Like, now this happens?
Jamie Stephens 19:11
You're like, what? HR, like,
Adele Akrong 19:13
what are you doing? Like, you know, so. And that's kind of the problem is, I was there for seven years, I have wonderful relationships with a lot of different people. So if this can happen to me, when, as far as I'm concerned, from the feedback that I got, from all my reviews, from the promotions, from all the advancement that I ended up having, that my position should have been secure, right, like, should have been secure. It could happen to me, then, like, I feel like it can happen to like anybody, if it can happen to you. It can happen to anybody. It's not only people who are kind of, you know, bad at their job, but this is kind of happening too. There's so much else that goes into it right? And it's so important that women are able to be more empowered and to take a leadership role within their life, and not to compromise their standards and settle for a life that settle for something that they don't really want. Just because, you know, you're kind of stuck in this box of limitations, and you're not sure what's kind of what's next. It's not until it's like us, that you're kind of thrown into the situation, life shakes you up. And now you look at things with through a different lens, you know, a different filter, and now you're looking creatively at your life on Okay, well, what can I create? Now what? You know, but it's hard to do that when you're still in the box?
Jamie Stephens 20:42
Yeah, for sure. Just because, I mean, like you said, I feel like a lot over achievers, you know, I'm sure you can relate to that. The ones that just take it on the ones that are like, Okay, now I've got this, I've got, you know, and just take on more and more and more. And then all your dreams that you were dabbling with on the side, just get further and further and further away, because you're so consumed with trying to build something that's not even yours, that you haven't paused long enough to think, is this really what I want? And then it's like, oh, okay, you know, it's just no, absolutely interesting. You know, it's just like, I mean, looking back, we know, when I was in school, like, corporate, I mean, I had a business degree, but it was small business management and entrepreneurship, like, I had no interest in corporate. I mean, we're in like, a corporate bubble here in Northwest Arkansas, with Walmart, and Tyson, you know, all of these things. And it's just like, I had zero interest for that yet. That's where I ended up. And then you just kind of have to step back and be like, I'm on the wrong ladder. This is not what I wanted. So
Adele Akrong 21:57
yeah, well, and when you it's interesting that you say that, because, like you have a business degree for like a small businesses and entrepreneurship, which is obviously kind of where you're at right now. Right? But it's interesting that the, when you're working with like, universal energy, and you're kind of in that flow, you'll always kind of be directed and feel into the path of least resistance. So all of those skills, all of that experience that you was that you were able to learn in your previous position is just, I'm sure so helpful in what you're doing right now. Right? Like, people fear entrepreneurship. And you know, you're able to kind of structure your day and your podcasts going to be super successful. And it's all going to come with all of the experience that you're able to kind of build upon and allow it to compound. And then the beautiful thing is the compounding of energy and the momentum led you back to what you're supposed to be doing, which is, you know, being able to share this message with other people and inspire other people and get them a resource. You know, hopefully it doesn't like us.
Jamie Stephens 23:13
Right? You can leave on your terms.
Adele Akrong 23:16
But will you but will you? Yeah. Will you leave on your terms?
Jamie Stephens 23:21
Yeah. Or not, you know, just,
Adele Akrong 23:25
we have that safety net of severance, which, like you said, like, that was huge. Yeah. Just to all of a sudden leave like in your head, you're like, Okay, well, I need eight months of living expenses together. I need to know what I'm doing. I need to know all of these things, all of this. And then you, you know, are one of those people who don't ever do it. Yeah. Right. So maybe we're the lucky ones.
Jamie Stephens 23:48
Yeah, I mean, for sure. I, I ended up meeting with one of the bosses, like, I don't know, a month or so ago, and he was just like, Yeah, I mean, you got screwed. And I'm sorry. And he was like, I hope that this is a nudge that you needed, and not like something that is just like, terrible and bitter. And I'm like, no, like, I'm, I'm good. Like, it's, it is the nudge, you know, it was made so easy to be able to say no, like, they sent out voting buttons to the entire department, like yes or no, do you want the I mean, that's, like, I voted on an email for my career. Like, thank you for making this easy and peace out. Yeah, that's totally. But yeah, I mean, like, that's not everybody's story. So I think building like having this kind of knowledge beforehand, so that you can kind of start to prepare and be prepared and really dig deep and figure out like, what is it that you are passionate about? Because I mean, is it really like somebody else's spreadsheet? And if it is, that's great, and like, go all in. But if it's not, then maybe do some self awareness and journaling and try to figure that stuff out. So you're not blindsided?
Adele Akrong 25:13
No, absolutely, absolutely. And all of that work that you do on, you know, a personal development level, that doesn't need to lead to anything other than your own awareness and feeling more capable and more powerful in your own experience within corporate or with which, whatever job you want, you know, whether or not that is a job, right? Like, it doesn't mean that you have to, you know, go into business for yourself, although that certainly seems to be the trend these days. Um, it doesn't mean that you have to start a side hustle, but it will increase your awareness of what's possible for you. And I mean, I know that when I was, in my early stages, I had such a limited view of what was possible for me, like you mentioned, journaling, I started journaling back in like 2018. And I hated it. Like, because who wants to dig into any of that stuff? And I started just listing like, all the reasons why I can't do this, like all the reasons why this is going to be painful for me. And now, even like six months later, looking back, like, I don't even identify with that person anymore. Like, I don't see it anymore. Like that's not. And I'm so thankful that I did the work when I did, because I can only imagine how much more traumatic my situation would have been if I didn't have a handle already on like, who I am and what I'm capable of. Doing. Right. It's hard. So,
Jamie Stephens 26:48
so that was Mother's Day of 20. This year. 2021.
Adele Akrong 26:54
So, yeah, 2021 Uri.
Jamie Stephens 26:59
Like all a blur at this point.
Adele Akrong 27:03
Yeah, that was a, that was a Mother's Day. And again, like, you know, I have a five year old son, I worked all day, I was like, why are people not getting back to me? I don't understand, like my supervisor, like, what is happening? And then it kind of all started making sense. The next day, I was like, you're like,
Jamie Stephens 27:20
could you not have told me this on Friday, so I could have at least enjoyed my weekend. And Mother's Day with my, you know, with my family?
Adele Akrong 27:28
Yeah. Not being so focused on closing this like, deal as assholes. I know, it's like, what do you do? And it's like, really, the day after Mother's Day? Like, we be a little bit more sensitive to? What's going on? Um, no. Yeah. And then tell me
Jamie Stephens 27:48
about that transition. So like, from Mother's Day, up to now, because I know, like, we can joke and say, we were prepared, and it's easier, you know, but like, reality, there's still that emotional roller coaster. And granted, you've got like your harness on and you know, how to handle it and all of those, but it's still it's not like it's easy, per se.
Adele Akrong 28:16
Absolutely not. Um, I realized a lot about myself going through that transition, because I kind of looked at it, like, I'm a very accountable person to the point where I'm probably over accountable, which is, I'm sure led to my demise. That company, because I probably took too much accountability for things that maybe I shouldn't be taken accountable for, I probably took too much ownership because I thought that that was kind of a strength, right, like, in my head, that was you need to be accountable. And it always kind of looks good. And you know, Perception is everything, I suppose. Um, so when everything had kind of happened, and then I came home, I really kind of, I took some time to really think about it. And like to this day, it still doesn't make sense. Like, I want to be accountable for what happened. But I really just don't think it was a me thing. I really like it, just, you know, and one thing that I really want to convey to everybody is that it's probably not a huge thing, like you can be accountable. And I'm not saying like you want to project or like, not take accountability for the actions and the energy that you're bringing into a situation. But we're co creating with other people were co create with the universe and like universal energy, were co creating with other people with our team. And sometimes it's, you can do everything you can possibly do and just kind of still be taken in the wrong way. So I learned a lot about myself when that transition happened, because instantly, I just probably I really do wish that I would have taken more time To process and to be able to really kind of deal with that traumatic experience. And I didn't give myself that time, I felt extremely under pressure. Because I had this severance period, I felt like okay, now I need, I have this amount of time to make this work in order to kind of be able to justify transitioning and doing this full time when I started my side hustle in hypnotherapy that just happened so quickly and so effortlessly, that I really thought that my coaching practice would kind of go the exact same way. So I was like, Okay, well, I just have to jump in, I have to do it, I put, like an enormous amount of pressure on myself, in order to be able to kind of make it happen. And that created this. This kind of effects where I was trying to do all of the things without complete clarity on what I wanted to do, which is fine, right? It's like the snowball effect. People think they need to be clear before you start. But clarity happens in motion, clarity happens over time, like you have to kind of start and then you kind of sink into your groove. So I ended up starting to get clients right away. I was running programs right away, I decided that, you know, hypnotherapy was not necessarily where I wanted to put my energy. I wanted to learn more about energetics, and really the energy behind things, how our energy kind of dances with universal energy and how it all kind of works and comes together. So I took a ton of different U turns throughout the way, I kind of put myself into a position where I was doing a lot of like the busy work, I felt kind of frantic. And then I was like, Okay, you need to like do what you are telling everybody else who do you have to like, take your own advice as a client and create space. Because this isn't gonna happen without space, right? If you have a frat, if you have frantic dense energy, and you're, you know, hustle culture, right, and you're still kind of taking in the mindset of like the corporate industry. And now you're trying to run your own business with a mindset of how you were as an employee, as opposed to now you're an owner, and you have to think of things differently. Your energy can be completely frantic and scattered. And although it might be working on the surface, and you're kind of getting clients and people are resonating with what you're saying, You're not going to be able to kind of create a sustainable business until you create space, but allowing that space to happen. Allowing that space to be present within your life and your energetic field is difficult.
Jamie Stephens 32:59
Yeah. I mean, especially like when you said, like, you've got a certain amount of months to figure this out. I mean, I can totally relate. Like, you know, my husband's like, what are you doing? Like, you're just like, I'm busy all of the time, you know, but it's like, really just, I feel like I'm with this podcast, cuz that's not where I started when I left, you know, but like, I really feel like I've found my groove. And, you know, I think I look back and it's just, okay, yeah, I should have just paused a minute, cuz I didn't give myself space either. You know, it's like, I left on Friday. And then I took like, one week, which was not enough, and then just kind of dove right into what I was doing, you know, that I had pushed aside and, and then it was just like this, everything was hard, you know? And it's like, why, why?
Adele Akrong 33:51
And you're doing all of the things you're trying to figure out how to be a copywriter? How do I build a website? How do I do all of these things, rather than focusing on your strengths on what you do? Well, and if you were if you saw it coming, if you're able to plan it, then maybe you know, you hire resources for that you allow the experts on how they I cannot tell you how many Oh, my goodness building my own website, and like how
Jamie Stephens 34:20
I paid for Squarespace for like an entire year before I even had like a public page. Like what
Adele Akrong 34:27
are you doing? Seriously, and then you go and find out that like, you don't even need a website anymore. And being able to kind of keep up with content and all of these things like I had I known back then what I know now I would have been a like I wish I would have I did hire a coach back then which I made that decision also a little bit too quickly. Um, because I didn't I signed For a coaching program that was kind of like, okay, here's my method and replicate my method. And what I really needed was someone to help me figure out how to do it myself, and lean into it. Right. So that's really what I do for other people is to help you kind of figure out where your strengths are, help you strategize, and kind of align everything to give yourself success without creating limitations on like, you have to do it this way. Right?
Jamie Stephens 35:28
Oh, I've made that that same mistake to where it's like, no, you have to do this, you have to do it this way. And you have to, you know, have this Facebook, and I'm like, I hate Facebook, like I don't, you know, totally,
Adele Akrong 35:40
I get it, it is, but you're like trying to
Jamie Stephens 35:43
check all the boxes and do everything, right. I feel like this whole entrepreneurship is like the biggest therapy session like ongoing because you work through so much, and so many limiting beliefs. And it's the thing that I've come to realize, and not that I'm putting those other coaches down that say, do it XYZ, because that's what's worked for them. And they believe, you know, if they don't have if they're not in touch with energy, and spirituality, and all those things, like they believe that that is the way to get success. Yeah. But what I have learned, just like you said, I mean, you find somebody that is going to just kind of hold that space for you to where you can do it your way. Because you can find examples. If you want to do something a certain way, you will find somebody that says, okay, Facebook is dead, somebody that says you have to have Facebook, somebody you know, it's like there's a black and white, every single story that people you know, and it's, and they're all right, because that's what worked for them. But that doesn't mean that that's what's going to work for you. And so that has been a really big lesson to where it's like if you are doing things to check the box, because somebody told you, that's what you need to do. But you your energy is not there like you don't you don't want to do it. You didn't you know, I mean, there's a difference between like, pushing yourself out of your comfort zone and those things versus like, No, I just, honestly don't want to do that. So I mean, it's just a whole balancing act. But
Adele Akrong 37:23
yeah, no, absolutely. And it's true. Like, it does come down to the energy behind the thing that you're doing. So I am not someone who can, I think we all have this where you're on like Facebook or something. And all of a sudden you wake up to especially as a coach, right? Because coach for coaches, holy Are they like, they're on top of you all the time. Um, so you'll wake up to all of these friend requests, and you'll go through and accept them, and then instantly, they're DMing you and they're trying to sell you something. And fairly early on, I was like, I can't do this DM thing, like I can't, like we need to, we need to have some sort of rapport, I need to know who you are, like, you know, like, don't just come in and try and start selling me something. And that really turned me off of DMing other people, like through Facebook, like cold DMS, right. Like all of a sudden I add you as a friend. Now let me you know, inquire about all of these things. And like, if I don't have time to get back to you, then you probably don't have time to get back to me, you know, like everybody has lives that they're trying to do. So in my coaching program, that was something that I didn't identify with. And I'm like, everyone had told me at the time when I foolishly spoke about that was okay, well, that's just a blog. You know, like, that's just, that's a subconscious book. I'm like, Well, no, I just want people to like, show up and want to hire me, even though they're like, That's ridiculous, you can't do that. You can absolutely do that. You can, that that's how I get every single one of my clients, I'll post content, I'll post videos, I'll do all of that people resonate with what I'm saying. They feel into the energy of it, and then people contact me. I don't need to necessarily go and track them down. And I understand that it's different for different like industries, like obviously, for a podcast, like you're, you're interviewing other people, right? You can't just necessarily show up on video constantly. I don't know, maybe you could. But you can't really do that. But as a coach, like, it's not my job to convince you to work with me. Right? It's not my job to convince you either you're there you're not and either I'm the coach for you or not, you know, maybe you do need more of that masculine energy where it's like, okay, you're going out and getting something. Whereas I'm more of like the feminine energy of just like receiving things, and both sides work, right. And it's different for different industries and So all about how you show up. But for me when I'm going out, and I'm trying to DM someone, my energy is completely off like I'm repelling at that point, like, you're not trying to, like, work with me. I'm not, you know, coming across in a way that you probably, you know, find appealing, right? And I'm also not like a coach. Well, I am a coach for coaches, like I do have clients who are coaches and entrepreneurs and people who are kind of starting their journey. Absolutely. But I'm not that person who's like, hey, hire me, I can get, you can make like 100k in like, 10 days or something. Like, that's not the results I'm getting you right, that could happen. But that's not my selling point.
Jamie Stephens 40:40
Yeah. No, I totally agree. I mean, I actually think that we met via DMS, but it wasn't like, spam, you know, like, we're in our Facebook group. And I think you posted something about corporate escaped me. And I was like, ah, ha, ya know, but like, also, I think it's different, because I'm not selling anything, you know, I mean, like, I am here to highlight you to find people, you know. And so I feel very aligned with how, like, I was really worried about that in the beginning, because I didn't really know how I was going to get guests per se. And, you know, but it's been very easy. And it's just because it's been natural, you know, and nothing is forced, it's like, oh, I'm seeing all these women, I'm interacting with them anyway, like, I'm being social with them anyway. And oh, by the way, they're a good fit for the show, you know, it's not anything icky. But
Adele Akrong 41:41
right, like, that's why I vibed instantly with you is because you didn't come across as that, right? Like, I get people in my DMs all the time, who are trying to like sell me something, and you can pick up on that, like, it's like I work in energy, like I can kind of pick up on the energy behind. I know, I like when she's putting down here. And I like what you're doing. And it is different with a podcast, right? Because you are looking for people to be able to kind of share this message in a way to be able to serve and help other people. There's not a single thing anyone could find compelling about showing up authentically being in service and just truly wanting to kind of allow people to hear as many messages as possible. But now if you came at me being like, hey, I can join my group, I can make you like 100k, in 10 days or over the weekend, I'd be like Yeah, yeah. Or, hey, here's some sort of like AI software, this chatbot
Jamie Stephens 42:43
stuff, and it's like, Oh, those are the worse. It's not my thing. So tell me an interesting client story. Like, what is one of your favorite, like, success examples that you've had? Or like, biggest, like, Aha moment that you've had over the last several months?
Adele Akrong 43:04
You know, every client is kind of different. Right? So I work a lot with I'm kind of transitioning like my business model, right now I work a lot with I work a lot one on one, right? Because you need space to be able to express what is happening for you, right? So I'm not super into like these long group programs, right, I don't find the for what I do. It's extremely beneficial. So I'll work one on one with people. And then I'll have small collectives, like small containers, like maybe like a month long, but there's always a one on one component. And I keep those very small. So each person has proper access, and make sure that you're getting the value, like my number one thing is, I want you to get the value. I don't want any client to ever walk away feeling like I just wasted my money, right? Like, that's not what I'm trying to do. So every client kind of is different, especially one on one because everyone is trying to create kind of something different, but I'm, what one of my recent clients. I'm also a coach, right also like an entrepreneur and trying to kind of find her way as well. Um, I did a strategy call with her. And she's not into the whole energy thing at all. And I kind of I started interacting a lot more with her on social media because she was making all of these posts like Oh, I'm just so I'm just so like, burnt out. I don't know what to do. I'm just and the energy behind her posts. I could really kind of pick up on and feel like, you need like, you need someone to give you permission just to like, take a break for a moment you need. We have this kind of perception sometimes that You have to hustle through things that like if you're having, if something happens in your life or you're sick, just because you're an entrepreneur, you have to push and push and push. And you're not allowed to take these breaks. And so she ended up we started talking, and she liked everything that I was saying. So she became a client of mine. And I started talking to her about energetics, I'm very much into like, Gene keys, human design, like very energetic blueprinting, sort of. So I'm able to kind of take some like personal information and kind of get like a general blueprint. And it's uncanny about how accurate this can be. So once I was able to do that, we were able to kind of talk about the energy that she holds consistently compared to the energy that she's absorbing. So think of it kind of like being an empath, right, you are picking up on someone else's energy, but you're amplifying it. So oftentimes, if you're an empath, then you know, someone around you is going through like really difficult time, but you are experiencing it in like this amplified more dramatic way. And that person seems to be like, okay with it, right? We do that through so much energy right through, it's not only empaths that do that, um, are the energy of Empath, so we can feel under pressure we can, like, there's, there's so many things pick up on other people's fear and their sense of identity. And we can really absorb different societal conditioning through that. So once we were able to kind of talk about it, and really kind of break it down. And what she's experiencing, I was able to let her know, like, this is the different type of energy that you're holding consistently, this is what you're going to experience consistently. And what we need to do is work on the meanings that you're giving things and kind of like your, I call it like a scale of expression, sort of right? Like, you can be experiencing a certain type of energy and a very low expression. Or you can move into a higher expression where it's something that actually benefits your life. So like a good example of that might be the energy of fear compared to like the energy of like courage and bravery, right, and being able to overcome and believe in yourself. So once we're able to kind of really break that down and talk about it. She told me, she's like, you know, you've given me permission, to feel the way I feel, but then the blueprint on how to get out of it, and how to express it in a more in a way that will support where I'm going. And I followed up with her like a month later, her entire business had changed. She gave herself time to relax, she understood when she was able to identify and pick up when she was operating out of like fear under pressure, or, you know, requiring certainty and trying to figure things out and kind of getting on this hamster wheel and spinning her wheels. And when she was able to understand that this is the energy that she was bringing forth, and how it's often just like a small pivot, like a small shift, just a small, like, just a small shift that ends up happening. Have you ever had it where maybe you may have been very like fixed in your thinking, like, there's the strategy you want to do. There's, you know, this plan that you want to do, you're kind of fixed in this thinking, and then someone says something, or something happens. And also you're like, I never thought about it that way. And you kind of make this pivot, and you start going down this different path. And you're like, Okay, well, that actually feels better for me. So I'm going to do it this way. And then all of a sudden, the stars just align, it becomes easy. You're not struggling, you're fighting, you're not resisting, just things kind of happen very quickly and very smoothly. That's the energy of alignment. That's how easily that's how effortlessly these things can come together. The problem is, is that we will override divine timing will force things to happen, we will create so much resistance and so much struggle to continue to try to fit ourselves into this box that we've outgrown. Where what we really need to do is just to allow ourselves to experience what else is happening. So what happens in those situations is the right time happens, the right person happens the message is received in the right way at the right time. And you just make the small shift, you just go into a different direction. Everything starts to come together in a more fluid more expansive way. Um, so that's kind of how she experienced it. She's like, I just never thought about it that way. That's just not something that I even knew I was allowed to do. And then now she has like a thriving practice. And she's very fulfilled. And she's able to bring more clients in and her messaging has been cleared up, it was just like a fantastic experience. Or, you know, I, then there's like, I mean, this work is really for everyone, there's people, I tend to work with people who are going through like career transitions. So being able to work with people who are looking for their next promotion, or they're in kind of a situation maybe like we were where it's like, okay, well, what's the next step, and not really being able to understand it, being able to provide that clarity, helping people create and start a side hustle is like a really big thing. I'm really passionate about that going into 2022. Because it's easier than people think it is. It's easier than people think it is, you know, so
Jamie Stephens 50:53
then, probably you and I made it. And
Adele Akrong 50:59
yeah, so and that's the thing is like, in my industry, we kind of call it like collapsing time, right? Like, you can, you can sit there and you can try to struggle and figure it out yourself, which is what we did, right. Or you can find the right person who's kind of aligned with you, who has the same type of business model that you're looking to create. And they can help you kind of align the pieces and show you kind of maybe your blind spots and help you strategize the strategy is huge, right? But being able to like mentor someone and really be able to hold space and be able to create whatever they want to create is, I think that's what my 2022 is going to all be about. I'm excited about it.
Jamie Stephens 51:42
That's awesome. Well, are there any programs or anything that you would like to talk about that are coming up that, I mean, I would love to be able to tell people about it.
Adele Akrong 51:55
So I have three wonderful programs that are being lined up for the first quarter of 2022. The first is going to be called Creation. And that's about really being able to tap into your own business energetics and working through strategy. This is not a step by step kind of formula. This is very much kind of tapping into each person and your unique way of selling and what feels very aligned for you and kind of how to get your energetics behind your strategy to infuse into like this wonderful business that you're creating, that is going to lead into kind of momentum. So for people who have followed the guidance, they're kind of working with it. And now they want to kind of continue with momentum, that will be an offering that is available in February. So those two are very exciting. And then I also will be running expansion. Expansion is all about leaning into your potential, and really kind of discovering what your purpose is your sole purpose, and is really enlightening and really kind of helps guide people to how to best express their innate gifts, their innate talents, and help you kind of expand and involve through 2022. Each one is really exciting. And it's perfect for anyone who is wanting to kind of lean more into business or go through a career transition, look at different promotions, how to really align your energy and infuse your energy in your business strategy. DM me on Instagram under Adele, the alignment mentor, or just on Facebook under Adele, a Chrome. So I'm super excited if anyone's interested and just DM me and I will send over the links.
Jamie Stephens 53:54
I just want to say a big thank you to Adele, I really appreciate her time and generosity with her lessons. A few of the key takeaways from this episode include, number one, just understand that there's more at play. What you see currently in your physical reality may not always make sense. And that's okay. And understanding your energy and understanding that there's more at play can really help to kind of sink in lock in those lessons. Number two, be accountable. But make sure it's for your stuff. I know as women we tend to take on a lot more than we really should. So just make sure that you are being accountable, but it is for your stuff. Number three, the universe will give us the path of least resistance. There's always something to learn. So never think that you're on the wrong path, just the path for right now. Number four, dive into personal growth to increase the awareness of what's possible for you. It doesn't have to mean anything, it can simply just be awareness. Number five take the time needed to process whenever you have like the big major or events, go ahead and take the time that you need rather than rushing into the next thing. But also know that number six clarity comes in motion and clarity happens over time. So kind of take those two lessons together. Number seven, it matters less about what you're doing that comes down to the energy of the thing you're doing. Number eight, it's absolutely possible to have your clients come to you, it's about learning to use energy in your favor. Number nine, it's often just a small pivot or a small shift that can make a massive difference, it can be that easy. Number 10. Recognize the energy of alignment and work with that. And number 11. You can collapse time with a coach continue to learn and expand. If you want to learn more about Adele again, you can find her on Instagram it is Adele, a d e l e, underscore the period alignment period mentor. We're at Adele, a chrome a Dle, aka rong.com online and I will link all of these things in the show notes as well. Thanks so much for listening. If you enjoyed this episode, please take a screenshot share it to your stories, subscribe to the podcast, give it five star rating all of the things share with a friend. I really appreciate you and your love shares helps other people find this podcast as well so I really appreciate it. Can't wait till next time
